Anyone who wears PJ’s to an interview deserves to be on the dole!

I’m sorry but these ‘bans’ violate the right to freedom of expression.

@Oisin: So what do you express when you wear your pajamas outside the home ?

I don’t own a pair of pajamas neither do wish to and personally I think that wearing them outside the house is inappropriate but what I find most frightening is the government telling people what their attire should be. It’s a problem when society finds it appropriate to wear such clothing outside the house but it’s not up to the government or social services to dictate what they wear , maybe someone can have a word with mick Wallace not wearing a suit in the dail or others wearing suits made of hemp .
The government has made a mistake here as its a free society people wear what they want and when they want , maybe the kwangos can double up as fashion police and stop people on a Saturday night with dresses to tight or short and the fine them on the spot .

We are building a scobie culture in this country and it won’t be long till we catch up with section of UK described as broken Britan

Are they that lazy to change their PJs…i bet they put more effort into going clubbing….

that’s sash off fair city knobbled then

would the do gooder brigade please piss off,get dressed you lazy cows!!!!

Remember the outcry when the no hoodie signs were put up ?

Dave I agree wearing PJs in public is inapproaite but I do believe the goverment has a right to expect people accessing services to be dressed not wearing the germ collecting clothes they have slept in after all they are supposed to be ready and available for work how Can they show this when they are unable to dress them selves do they also wear them to job interviews etc..when we go out to clubs pubs we follow the dress code imposed ..I love my pjs and love a day when I can wear them all day but I would not leave my house in them never mind engage in official business in them this lowering of standards is not acceptable from a hygiene point alone what about the rights of the workers this infringement of civil liberties is crap if they wish to wear the pjs out and about fine but if they wish to access services be they government or retail the should be dressed…..

Some people are unbelievable .. How much effort does it take to just throw on a pair of jeans and a t-shirt before going out the door . Total lazy attitude to life and not acceptable to the rest of us who at least try .

It is a disgraceful carry on to go in to an office with PJ’s on. It is a complete lack of self respect and shows contempt for everyone else on the dole as well.

It is not working class politics to tolerate this kind of shit. It is profoundly destructive to the working class. A society that is not bothered to project a can do attitude, to take control of its own affairs is never going to stand up to bent bankers or FF criminals.

Is there some rapper who wears pyjamas or what? How do people decide to start at this crack? It’s a mystery to me how other people operate.

“I mightn’t agree with what you say, but I’ll fight for your right to say it … ” It’s a similar situation, is it not?

Listen anyone who’s employed or semi responsible has to dress in a certain manner for certain occasions – eg suit to work, hair net and overalls in kitchen etc etc. Wearing pyjamas to your dole office is a joke. Minimum requirement for getting state aid is that you show a bit of respect for the people providing it and show up in something other than what you sleep in, end of!

persoanlly, i would ban the wearing of sports gear. i find the wearing of man utd tops, nike runners, various other similar items indicative of a generally couldnt care less attitude to life. surely, people can go out and buy proper clothes instead of going around looking like something out of the bin around the back of lifestyle sports outlets?

It has nothing to do with “Freedom of Expression” – would you go to a job interview in your PJs? If you are serious about it, probably not.

There are certain situations in life where a certain dress code is required – end of.

If these people wouldn’t have been taking the piss, there would be no need for the signs – end of.

Pyjamas as daywear, and please note, usually carefully washed ironed and put on with full make up, are a current fashion trend. They are no worse than the weird trend for wearing tracksuits for everything, and possibly better, as the fabrics are more likely to be cotton than nylon.

As for employability, that depends on the employer. Some employers like their workers to look edgy and trendy.

I think this objection to the daywear pyjamas trend is a reflection of the class-bound mindset of people who assume poor people are lazy by definition. If it is a trend that happens to be popular among poor people, by this circular reasoning, it must be a sign of laziness.

Oisin, no doubt you’ll support my right to expression when I say STFU

What an embarrassment for Ireland to have this in the Times editorial.

people talk about freedom and democracy, but not in Ireland, dictate dictate dictate, baa baa

I sleep in the nip. Does that mean that if I lose my job that I have the right to parade down to the dole office stark bollock naked just because I’m too bone idle to put on some clothes??
Didn’t think so!
Freedom of expression my arse!
Get a grip!

i went for me dole dressed as a banana. The dole lady said I was outta me bleeding tree.

BBC Radio 4 Also did a piece on this last night – including PJ fashion advice. It’s at 26:50 and yes iplayer radio does work in Ireland (except mobile) http://www.bbc.co.uk/iplayer/episode/b019q8yp/Six_OClock_News_26_01_2012/

I used to see young wans in UCC wearing PJs and Uggs to lectures…so its fair to say that this phenomenon spans across all social divides! I also used to hear of stories about girls with long skirts down to their ankles wearing PJs underneath. I honestly think its pretty rank to be wearing them outside then going to bed…also not pleasant to see people not take more pride in their appearance.

Anyone who wears pj’s to an interview should be removed from the ever growing list of freeloaders in this country. Attach them to the list of those who have never had a job in their 3-10 years post 18th birthdays, people with criminal records & those who’s disabilities range from chronic laziness to “I only rob those who have”! Welfare state..cripples those who support, correction, who fund the state!

The worldwide use of pajamas,the word originally referred to loose trousers tied around the waist. Such a garment is used by various persons in India e.g. by women of various classes,It was adopted from the Muslim by Europeans.They were introduced in England as lounging attire in the 17th century,Even more generally, pajamas may refer to women’s combination daywear, consisting of short-sleeved,At present, most trousers are held up through the assistance of a belt which is passed through the belt loops on the waistband of the trousers. However, this was traditionally a style acceptable only for casual trousers and work trousers; suit trousers and formal trousers were suspended by the use of braces (suspenders in American English) attached to buttons located on the interior or exterior of the waistband. Today, this remains the preferred method of trouser support amongst adherents of classical British tailoring.Are all others pajamas,??????

What people don’t understand I’d that these are not the same PJ’s as they wear to bed. They change into these PJ’s to go out.

I quite like polls, and wouldn’t mind seeing one in this.
My view is quite the same as banning hoodies in shopping centers etc.. (Well, they can have hoodies on, just ot have the hood up). I for one, wear hoodies and I do wear them with the hood up. When it’s raining and or windy! Not when I’m inside giving evil stares to oul ladies walking past.

It was a good ban, and still is. This will be too.
My opinion of course.

If I see someone wearing Pyjamas out, I instantly think ‘dole for lifer – role outta bed, down to the offo, back into bed’. Yep, instantly. So sue me!

They have there going out pjs and staying in pjs. I have seen a mother and daughter going in to the welfare both in there pjs

come on cormac. pajamas on the street is a statement that they couldnt give a monkeys about what anyone thinks of them and that they couldnt even be bothered getting dressed. its disrespect to all of society. considering most of these women are being paid dole, the least they could do is show respect for themselves.

How can you honestly say, ” yeah I’m actively seeking employment” when you turn up ay the post office/social welfare office in your pjs scratching your star. They should have their dole cut for making false declarations…and further prosecuted for lack of hygiene and looking like f***ing muppets…

We kind off smile to ourselves nowadays looking back at our parents. I love the memory of my dad getting dressed to go to work (farah slacks and a shirt and tie topped off with a v neck jumper). It wasn’t about his job, but more about the pride he had as a man going out to work.

Discrimination over what people wear is as bad as discrimination based on religion gender etc

Wow what a load of fascist class hatred this sparked off! Going to the social welfare to collect your dole is not comparable to going to a job interview as anyone who’s been on the dole knows. Does a potential employer make you queue for hours, sometimes in the rain, and then treat you with contempt? Refusing social welfare to people on the grounds of what they are wearing is probably illegal as unemployment benefit is a legal right, not charity bestowed on a whim. When you are at the dole office you are by definition not looking for work at the moment so what you are wearing is completely irrelevant to whether you are seeking a job.

If we want to ban any form of clothing on the basis it indicates social destructiveness we should ban suits, as ti is people wearing these who have banjaxed the country, not people in pyjamas!

PJs outside = Scumbag

Conversation over.

If you’re out in public in pyjamas it looks like you’re a lazy ass – so if you’re on the dole and collecting your stuff at the office in your pyjamas, it doesn’t quite look like you’re out looking for a job, you look like you’re too lazy to get dressed, never mind go looking for work.

And if you’re so in to freedom of expression and determined that you’re gonna go out in your pyjamas, why not just go au naturelle and be done with it?

I was on the social welfare for two days the one week were we were put on slow time and received €44.32. For those days that I had to go in I either wore a suit or my work uniform. The officers behind the desk are professionals, and just like any meeting with a civil service officer you need to look presentable. Now, obviously everyone wouldn’t wear a suit, but a t-shirt and jeans are hardly out of the question. Nobody wants to see someone wear pajamas. And if you need reminding… http://youtu.be/YJIldZb3x2c

It’s the pits. I used to work in sundrive superquinn and the young ones would come in to do their shopping in silk jammys and their SLIPPERS!! You think that’s bad? I went for a pint last year in Crumlin and an oulone was sitting at the bar happily sipping her drink in her jammys and morning coat…. Hahaha it’s bleeding NUTS!!!!

Ha ha, I would have thought anyone stumbling around in the street in slippers and Pj’s has just wandered out of their care home and is a couple of sandwiches short of a picnic. Or am I just brought up in a time when potential bosses assessed you in the first 10 seconds before you even shook hands. Taking the P if you ask me.

problem. solved.

http://www.broadsheet.ie/2012/01/23/suitjamas/

Maybe they’re wearing pyjamas on planning of sleeping their way to the top… *tumbleweed….*

@ Kevin. Classic hahaha

Jesus has anyone seen the way the civil servant cabbages dress, not that’s ugly.