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Michael D wasn’t the only one slamming the Tea Party

An old audio clip of the Irish President has gone viral on the other side of the Atlantic today. But he isn’t alone in his criticism of the movement.

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ELECTION SEASON IN the US brings up all sorts of past events, speeches and tentative links of support.

As things heat up politically on the other side of the Atlantic, an audio clip of Michael D Higgins taking on radio host and Tea Party supporter Michael Graham has gone viral thanks to an Upworthy post entitled ‘A Tea Partier Decided To Pick A Fight With A Foreign President. It Didn’t Go So Well.’

The social media outfit says its mission is to make “important stuff as viral as a video of some idiot surfing off his roof”.

The debate, which actually happened on Newstalk in May 2010, heard the now-Irish president disagree with Graham on everything from health care to foreign policy. Holding back no punches, MDH finished his take down with a NSFW expletive (clue: w*@!*r).



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Although we were hard pressed to top that smackdown, there have been plenty of other famous faces waiting in line to slam the Tea Party’s policies.

First up, Hollywood favourite Morgan Freeman claimed during an interview that the Tea Party’s opposition to Barack Obama was fuelled by racial prejudice.

“Stated policy, publicly stated, is to do whatever it takes to see to it that Obama only serves one term. What … underlines that? Screw the country. We’re going to do whatever we do to get this black man … outta here…

It just shows the weak, dark, underside of America. We’re supposed to be better than that.”



Rather unsurprisingly, outspoken actor Seán Penn provided the follow-up:



Former presidential hopeful and Obama’s 2008 rival, John McCain commented on the debt ceiling debate in July 2011 with an it-would-be-funny-if-it-wasn’t-so-serious comparison of the Tea Partiers and JRR Tolkien’s hobbits. He also described their policies as “crack political thinking”.



Television host Piers Morgan couldn’t hide his contempt for the movement during an interview with Ann Coulter as he asks whether the Tea Party is the modern version of Hitler and Mussolini’s followers.



Finally, author Stephen King calls a Tea Party governor a “stone brain”.



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  • Good man yourself, Michael D!

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    • It’d be better if he was just as candid with our own politicians.

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    • Rita 23/08/12 #

      If only they had such an orator as MDH then the tea party and republicans might have some hope of challenging Obama.how they can justify opposing Healthcare for the less well off defies all understanding.Having to leave hospital because you cannot afford a pint of blood pre op is outrageous in what is called the greatest country in the free world.I would question that.

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    • Search for ‘Michael D Higgins rap’ on YouTube.

      Michael D said what we all think about the baggers, but he couldn’t have said it any better. The punchline at the end sealed it. Go Mike D!!

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  • This is why he is president. Hon Michael #Hero !

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    • So long as he doesn’t end up as Minister for Finance here! Himself and his borrowaholic socialist pals should bog off to Cuba or some other similar ‘paradise’ where the state takes from the earners to give to those who sit around sucking on the welfare teat. Giving a person money/services for nothing is morally reprehensible and this very principle is at the core of Michael D’s thinking. These celebrities fail to shout down the Tea Party’s core message – cut the mad borrowing and keep taxes low for those who dare to go out and earn their crust. Makes sense to me – but I could be crazy.

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    • @gary well Jesus look what capitalism has done to us!!! Socialism doesnt seem half bad

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    • One of the major political stories raging in the US this week is a British Harvard professors carpeting of Barach Obama in Newsweek and counter-carpeting by Obama supporters.
      The Journals look across the Atlantic features pro-Democratic propaganda, which includes a two year debate between a radio host and MDH (the ultimate champagne socialist).
      Is the Journal part owned by Democrats or what?
      http://mobile.bloomberg.com/video/niall-ferguson-defends-newsweek-obama-story-kLn4VRYURvSbfzQggJXfJQ.html

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    • @ Sean To be honest, I would assume that thejournal chose not to cover that story, not because of any pro-democrat agenda, but because it woldn’t bring in enough comments and hits. Leaving out sports and human interest stories, the motherlode articles revolve around slagging off Irish politicians, provoking tensions between nationalities, immigrants, abortion, social welfare, prostitution, the phantom menace of a new tutonic world order, taxi-drivers, developers and anything Sinn Fein related. Can you spot the common denominator between these topics?

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    • I disagree. There would appear to be a clear pro-Democrat agenda in stories covered in The Journal.
      The idiotic comments recently made by Republican, Mr Akin, has been the subject of more than one piece. However, the Democratic Vice President routinely issues ill-advised idiotic (at times offensive) comments, but I’m hard-pressed if I can remember this being covered in The Journal.

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    • @Conor There was nothing capitalist about the fall of this country. We ended up capitalising the profits of the boom and socialising the losses. That’s not capitalism. There are no bank bailouts in a capitalist system.

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  • I imagine those 4 minutes 21 seconds are part of a much larger debate. Best 4 minutes 21 secods I’ve heard in a long while! G’wan Mickey D!

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  • Michael D was by far the best out of that lot. but why isnt he giving speeches like that about the state of our political and banking syst
    em?

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    • Exactly Matthew,great point.Let’s not forgot that D Higgins was part of the campaign of lies to have Labour elected.Sadly too many people fall for this type of populist rhetoric. Just to be clear here,Michael Graham is a knob,a guest on a show hosted by another knob and FG cheerleader,George Hook,but D Higgins is no hero,and his no legend or anything like it.He’s just another overpaid,under worked,hypocrite like the rest of the politicians in this country.

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    • Because as president of Ireland he has to remain apolitical according to our constitution

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    • If he can’t comment about the state of the system in a crisis like this one then we don’t need a president, do we?

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  • Democracy in general is supposed to bring outliers towards the centre, but in America its bringing moderates to the extremes. During the caucuses for a GOP nominee, Romney was considered the moderate, especially compared to Gingrich and Santorum. He had broadly supported Obama’s policies. Now he has lurched drastically to the right to appease the Teabaggers.

    But why have the Teabaggers got so powerful? They portray themselves as “middle America” fed up with Government “treading on them” with high taxes etc. Indeed a lot of their support base is from lower-middle class people, who somehow view the Tea Party as great liberators.

    But in reality the Tea Party is being funded by the Koch brothers, the 5th richest family in America who only care about protecting the super rich which is why clowns like Paul Ryan only want a 1% tax on the most wealthy. Those who vote for the Tea Party are voting themselves out of a future, because it is the lower and middle classes that will bear the brunt of the larcenic policies of the Tea Party.

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    • Someone’s been watching The Newsroom. It doesn’t mean you’re not correct.

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    • @Karswell, I knew about the Koch brothers before “The Newsroom” (great show). Perhaps Antóin did too.
      The simple fact of the matter is that the vast majority of Tea Party members (the ones who do the tea bagging) have as much faith in Fox News reports as they do in the Bible. Complete faith.

      Fair and balanced, full of contradictions and open to interpretation, but mostly used for scaremongering.

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  • Absolute legend!

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  • Dave 23/08/12 #

    Never more proud of my decision to vote for MDH!!! Go prez!!!

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  • Poor Americans – they dont’ realise the whole Tea Party movement is funded by the Koch Brothers – arch enemy of Obama

    http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wnY9TNjb-Xo

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  • While I did’nt agree with everything Michael D said, I have to say however he was awesome putting MG in his place once and for all! I am so sick and tired of MG referring to everyone as an anti-semites, and he’s starting to sound like a broken record! As Michael D said this type of clap trap accusations leads down a very dangerous road and he’s spot on with that point. Good man Michael D. Would love if he ranted like that at someone like Bertie Aherne lol :-)

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  • The Tea Party. Shouldn’t they be a group if little girls in pretty dresses drinking juice out of their little cups, playing with dolls? Instead of trying to take away our rights of free speech, religion, lifestyle etc? This country is a mess.

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  • I’m glad I voted for him in last years presidential election

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  • Fair play Michael! Should have him on Bord Failte ads in USA:)

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  • tea party = gun loving bible sucking Sarah Palin worshipping hypocritical anti-scientific morons

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  • I like how this is in The Daily Edge rather than the politics section.
    It deserves to be here because the Tea Party provides me (and many others, I’m sure) with endless entertainment.

    Earlier today I was involved in a polite debate with a couple of friends on Facebook. It began with a Canadian friend positing that followers of organised religion suffer from a psychological disorder.
    I agreed, and pointed out how some religious practices are akin to OCD (repetition of prayers and certain rituals etc.).
    A mutual American friend also agreed.

    A couple of the Canadian’s friends disagreed, but it was all done in a dignified manner.
    That was until I went on a rant about the Tea Party and how insane they really are.

    I’d post it here, but it’s quite long.

    In short; The Tea Party may have started out with good intentions (even though they were poorly educated on how the world really works), but have become the Christian equivalent of the Muslim Brotherhood.

    They are like kids in a toy shop. They want everything they see, but cannot comprehend the fact that everything they want comes at a price.

    Their views on the rights of women are archaic, and what’s even worse is that they have many women in their ranks who blindly follow the Tea Party rhetoric.

    Then you have Michelle Bachmann. Sarah Palin’s would-be successor.
    She, and her husband, believe that you can “Pray away the gay” or some similar slogan. Check out some youtube videos of her husband, Marcus Bachmann.
    Now go back to the Clinton era. Swap Bill with Marcus, Hilary with Michelle, and Monica with MANica (sorry about the lame pun). Denial. Not just a Muslim Brotherhood controlled river in Egypt.

    The Tea Party have become a very polarised and dangerous movement. They represent extremist Christianity, and are gaining more and more followers every day.
    We have all laughed at the crazy Americans in the past, but it was harmless. These people are really dangerous, and they continue to gain power.
    On the plus side, I do believe that the majority of Americans are sane, and they will eventually come to their senses.

    Come November, when the heathens re-elect that Black, Kenyan, Muslim Pagan, the Tea Party will wind down their hatred of everyone who isn’t of European descent, while still hating everyone from Europe, and things will return to some sort of normality.

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  • Michael is the man!!!

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  • Proud of u Michael D

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  • Excellent way to put Mike Graham in his box , proud he’s our president

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  • So proud :D

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  • misses the point is that he wasn’t just a tea partier, but a long time troll and shock jock

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    • tuigim 26/08/12 #

      Aren’t all tea partiers?
      They like the sound of their own voices, say shocking things and troll the media airways and in my neighborhood, flood gardens with signs supporting their loyalty for the tea party. They are selfish ignorant gits who want everything for free but want to pay for nothing.

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  • The journal is going to have to start paying royalties to reddit

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  • I wonder do the people who view the Tea Party as “far right extremists & crackpots” think the Occupy Wall Street movement are “far left extremists & crackpots”?

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  • Hugo chavez would’nt makes such anti american remarks.Wake up Ireland the only country that invests here is the U.S.A ,thousands of illegal irish living in the states,sick children been flown from Ireland to the states for help.Irish healthcare is a complete joke,Haiti probally has cleaner hospitals.Show some respect Ireland…..

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    • Respect for a tw@t like Sarah Palin? A moron like Todd Akin? I have more respect for what’s in my cat’s litter tray”! Taking the piss out of bigots and idiots like the Tea Party is not anti-American.

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    • Michael D made no anti American remarks, he made anti-Tea Party remarks. The Tea Party are far more anti American than Michael D Higgins.

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    • I would take the view that vilifying the tea party is an act of respect and support for the USA, not a condemnation of that state. They have a constitution that is possibility the most noble and egalitarian ever drafted. The tea party’s agenda is in complete opposition to the spirit of that document.

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    • Anti-American and anti-Tea Party are two completely different things. Too many people are berated into thinking that any criticism against anything American is anti-American. Is not liking the IRA anti-Irish? How about not liking the UVF? You can despise extremists within a society without despising the society itself. For that matter, let’s leave extremists out of it… you don’t like Michael D – does that therefore mean that you are anti-Irish? I don’t think you are, but by your reasoning, that’s how it reads.

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    • The Tea Party is the embodiment of everything America has stood against since it was founded. Cop on Paul,

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    • Listen again! He makes several pro American comments and clearly distinguishes between the right wing Tea Party and general America. In fact he gushes about America.
      I felt proud at his put down of Michael Graham who is a notoriously good debater ( politics aside).

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    • Spose you’d prefer it if we all fawned over the likes of Bill O’Reilly…Truth is, Michael D. said nothing anti-American, he crticized their foreign policy and the tea party…If a right winger from a foreign country criticized Obama, that’d make him anti-American? My God, since the shambles that was the Bush years was shown for what it was by the legacy of death and despair it left, the tea party, Palin, ewt al are soooo passe. Get over it; comparing people to Hitler for wanting health care and opposing war just doesn’t cut the mustard anymore. Nutjobs

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    • CUBA

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  • Great Journalism
    Because all these celebrities don’t like the tea party so should I. So I can remain cool

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    • @ medred .. Don’t be simple..Regular well educated Americans have more brains and dont fancy the Teaparty either.. Anybody in their right mind knows theyre only a shower of crackpots!!

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    • Shem 23/08/12 #

      I think the point was showing other well known people who have publicly slammed the tea party in one way or another similar to what Michael D did. Not to try and persuade people they should agree because its cool.

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    • JTHM 23/08/12 #

      The celebs are in a position to make their opinions known. The tea party are extremist nut bags who are known for using whatever leverage they can drum up to pressure the media into giving a one-sided view. Non-politicians speaking up for the other side is only redressing the balance.

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    • “Unbiased” journalism just like we are getting 24/7 from Fox News , the great fascist mouthpiece of the GOP – Tea Party ! Will you get a life sir .
      Michael D spoke for every right thinking Irish citizen and for the real majority in the US too .

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    • @JTHM would you classify Occupy Wall Street as extremist nut jobs as well?

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    • @Eddie so by your reasoning I presume you’d agree that the rest of the US media (CBS,NBC,CNN,ABC) would be one giant mouthpiece for Barack Obama & the democrats. Fox News is the only station in America that actually allows conservatives opinions, it is the least biased station of the lot.

      Wise Up.

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    • What happened to news channels that just read the news?

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    • Remain ?

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    • medred 23/08/12 #

      Great ad hominems from those who claim to be intellectually superior!!!

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    • JTHM 23/08/12 #

      @ Cian – a minority of Occupy would be extremist buttons, yes. But only a minority. The Occupy movement was a collective movement, many different people with constraining ideologies came together under a single banner. It was a great thing to see but sadly this is also the reason for their in effectiveness; the diversity of ideologies meant that it was very difficult for the movement to have any concrete aims, it slipped into being an “anti”, movement, defining itself as “anti-capitalism”, “anti-authority” etc, rather than “pro-” anything. The diversity of the participants lead to a very blurring identity and with no clear progression.

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    • JTHM 23/08/12 #

      @ sceptically speaking: whatever happened to coffee-flavoured coffee? You can’t increase your market share by simply selling the same high-quality products. You need to keep adding extras and shiny new gimmicks. Why is toothpaste or washing power always “new and improved”? How much better can it really be?

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    • JTHM 23/08/12 #

      @ medred – it’s not the first time you’ve made a spurious claim that your detractors claim to be intellectually superior. It seems to be less to do with what they believe and more to do with what you believe, I’d address the low self-esteem issues you have with your own intellectual prowess, if I were you. You are very quick to see slights in the shadows.

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    • medred 23/08/12 #

      Seems you cant read either JTHM

      @medred, you really have to have to worst thought process of anyone I have ever heard / read/ seen.

      claiming I have a inferioirty complex is again ad hominem
      Why do you comment so much when you have nothing more to say than masterbate your own ego

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    • JTHM 23/08/12 #

      @ medred – you tend to be an attention seeker, so I’ll reply once but, unless you develop your argument rather than just repeating your outburst, I won’t be replying again to you on this thread.

      1. You have tried to derail the comments section by bringing the topic off the topic of the article and onto yourself. Stay on topic.

      2. I did not say that you had an inferiority complex, I said you had low self-esteem issues. Please be accurate.

      3. You quoted another comment to show how people think they are intellectually superior. But the comment doesn’t do this. Rather than criticising your intellectual ability, it criticise how you present an argument. These are two very different things.

      4. You are fond of the Latin “ad hominem”, but you often use it incorrectly. Please check its actual meaning. Received knowledge is never a replacement for actual knowledge.

      As I’m said, I’m more than happy to continue this discussion, if it is a discussion. If it’s only a series of repetitive outburst without and progression, then please do not expect a reply.

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    • Oh my god the journal has been infiltrated by the Commies, sure if yea want right Wing neoliberal news sure pick up all the papers and watch RTE, thanks journal for a bit of a choice.

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    • Oh my, the journal has been infiltrated by the Commies, and democrats

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  • What a stupid liberal rant and all very onesided,did the other gentleman get a chance to respond to any of his bizare remarks.American backpackers are more repected in europe because of Obama.Is Micheal d having a nervous breakdown in his old age.

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  • Ireland could have done with a Tea Party movement but instead was sunk by corporatism. Essentially the Tea Party is a grassroots American Constitutionalist movement which Europeans don’t really get. Higgins’s shrill histionics don’t impress – he should get back in his box. But then he has – he’s the President now. Great way to shut up this clown.

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    • The tea party may have started as a grass-roots movement, but it has been clearly proven that that is no longer the case. Just look at where the funding comes from. It is now a top-down not a bottom up movement, and it’s agenda is to use fear and prejudice to benefit a small minority of wealthy capitalists. But what they’re advocating is not free-market capitalism by any means, it’s a classic case of businessmen obtaining positions of power via capitalism, and then using a political movement to chop the rungs of the ladder to remove the possibility of a new generation of free-market capitalists repeating their successes and eclipsing them. It’s a strategy if removing competitiveness, not facilitating competitiveness.

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  • Its one thing for President Higgins to disagree with someone. Its another thing to descend into a one-sided rant without giving the opposition an chance to self-defend.

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