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Dublin: 14 °C Wednesday 19 June, 2013

It’s official: Ireland is a Third World country*

*But it’s probably not what you think.

WE’VE ALL HEARD jokes about it. Some of us may have thought it. Michael Noonan has denied it in the strongest terms, during those nightmares when he’s answering questions from Mario Draghi in the nude.

But visitors to Wikipedia may be surprised to learn that Ireland is, in fact, a Third World country.

Anyone visiting the entry for the Third World is presented with a map which clearly shows the First (blue), Second (red) and Third (green) worlds. See us there in shining emerald?

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Image: Wikimedia Commons

But before we tool up with pitchforks and flaming torches for the trip over to Jimmy Wales’s gaff, let’s pause for a little history lesson.

Wikipedia helpfully informs us that the term Third World arose during the Cold War, when it referred not to economic development but to military and political alliances. So basically any country allied to the US was First World, any allied to Russia was Second World, and any neutral or non-aligned country (like us!) was Third World.

So there we go. Ireland is officially a Third World country. But not in the bad way.

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Comments (52 Comments)

  • Great news! This surely means that Bono and Geldof can get involved in sorting out our debt!

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  • Let’s grab the pitchforks and flaming torches anyway..!!

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  • Nice one, I like these quirky stories…. Thanks journal

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  • Ooh can we get a Live Aid concert?

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  • The map shows Somalia as a First World country! They really are in trouble!

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  • Maybe Bono could organise a concert in Berlin to cancel all our debts.

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  • Anyone else want to play Risk after looking at the map. i’m Blue.

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  • And apparently Greece is a second world country ahead of Ireland.

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  • In the map, Iran is in blue – ie aligned to the United States. Have I missed something or am I just dreaming !!!

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  • Are people in East Africa collecting money in Trocaire boxes for us???

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  • So will get €5 a month?

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  • Where is glorious nation of Kazakhstan?

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  • “Developing World” is also false. Many countries so characterised have not developed in the last decades, but have regressed. The West likes to pretend they are developing through foreign investment, but this hs also increased poverty in many cases. If the West really wNted them to develop, then among other things they could abolish the EU tariffs on mAnufactured goods from the “Third World”.

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  • The only third world aspect to Ireland is the elected politicians.

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  • Definitely third world in the corruption and gullible population stakes.

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    • 19th least corrupt country in the world.FACT

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    • Really nothing to be celebrating there martin

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    • There are different ways of defining and measuring corruption.

      “In effect, the Irish state didn’t just tolerate corruption, it actively managed and encouraged it. Even debating the merits of the form of corruption embodied by Social Partnership shows how instrumental ethics replaces real values when the cancer of corruption metastases. Social Partnership is simultaneously a collusive cartel, a conduit for influence peddling, a vehicle for patronage and a price-fixing mechanism. Its goal is to preserve the status quo of wealth and income distribution, skewed in favour of the Partners.

      It should come as no surprise that in 2011, Ireland ranked 19th in the Transparency International Corruption Perception Index (CPI) – the lowest of all small open economies in the Euro Area, bar Estonia and Cyprus. As the Moral Sages of our Left ardently decry market economics, its flagships – New Zealand (ranked 1st in the world), Singapore (5th), Switzerland (8th) and Hong Kong (12th) – are less corrupt than the Social Partnership-governed Ireland. In Political Risk Services International Risk (PRSIR) rankings, Ireland is placed between 26th-31st in the world – alongside Uruguay, the UAE, Botswana, Israel and Malta. The only euro area country that scores below us for overall political risks is Estonia.

      Higher corruption overall is associated with a significantly lower quality of economic institutions. The correlation between the CPI score, the Economist Intelligence Unit Country Risk Assessment score, the IMD World Competitiveness score and the PRSIR score is in excess of 0.9 or, in statistical terms, nearly perfect. This shows the costs we pay for corruption in terms of economic institutions quality.

      In 2011, in Ireland, trust in the Government as measured by the Edelman Trust Barometer – another metric of democratic institutions quality that correlates strongly with CPI – stood at 20%, against an average of 52% for the 23 countries surveyed in the report, making Ireland the lowest ranked country in the study. On the back of 2011 elections, the reading rose to 35% in 2012 and remains significantly below the 43% global average. As of today, of all institutions of the society – private and public – the Irish Government has the lowest trust of its people compared to businesses and NGOs, and equivalent to that of the Irish media.”
      Dr Constantin Gurdgiev

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  • In what way is Ireland such a young country?

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    • JTHM 21/08/12 #

      As a nation we’re less than 100 years old, so we’re young ( although not as young as India, Pakistan, or the many Africian nations established during the great Imperial shrinkage ).

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  • Looking at the comments, it appears that only a few people went to he bother of reading the full article, or are complete idiots.
    Probably the latter.

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  • if we are going to burn anything please let it be the bond holders. There I said it…was I first…do I win a prize?

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  • I think there are thousands of families with children in this country trying to make ends meet who would beg to differ because they live below the poverty line. People trying to decide if they will buy food or oil this winter is very 3rd world in my eyes.

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  • The only thing blue is the crowd of blueshirts in the dail , on holidays at the moment thinking up new taxes for when they return to rob the poor of the country. I can see the big man Hogan next year ordering the Trocaire Boxes be handed over so they will have more money for the bondholders and the banks.

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  • Banana republic!!!!

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  • With all the IEDs and suspect packages around the place it’s hardly surprising this place is 3rd world.

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  • Must be third world. Every time we cut a bloody tree down we have a crowd prostrating themselves around it.

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  • this year africa are sending irelands children the shoebox of toys this christmas..

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  • Why should we oppoligised for deserters,

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  • Niall 21/08/12 #

    I’ve known this for years!

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  • If the government don’t get there act together we will be a third world country. Wtf ?

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  • I think that’s bullshit!!!

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  • The phrase third world has been discredited, it’s called the developing world, and as Ireland is such a young country I don’t see the problem with calling us developing!! Aside from that we anything based on Wikipedia is completely unreliable!

    Disappointed!!!

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    • JTHM 21/08/12 #

      By the “developing” / “developed” definitions, we’re already in the “developed” camp; we have (officially) low infant mortality, an established middle class, a comprehensive ( on paper ) social services system and national education system, democratic rather than military rule and a very high level of medical services ( to those who can afford it ). If only we could get the hot and cold water coming out of the same tap…

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    • Now , Now, the story is really more about the etymology of term “third world” in that the popular understanding refers a socioeconomic classification but this piece point out that its true origin was to refer to cold war political allegiances .We all know that the popularised economic term is now outmoded but Michael had to use it to point out the changing meaning over time . BTW, what do you mean “discredited”? was there a secret laboratory set up that found the term “third world” has no scientific merit ?!? Did Mr “third world “give false information to a tribunal? MMM .No ,I think this is a slightly whimsical demonstration how a commonly “understood” term was actually developed to depict something else entirely .i.e. So, in summary your point is moot and you should be disappointed in yourself for not being able to understand the true meaning of the piece!

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  • “19th least corrupt country in the world.FACT” Ha ha, how i laughed when i saw that! In what world is that then Martin? because if you really believe that then you are certainly not in the real world. Ireland is as corrupt a state as you can get, it’s gombeen parish pump politics and cronyist culture has turned it into a banana republic where incompetence and venality are rewarded and honesty and hard work are penalised. The country is a basket case run by the kind of gangsters you’d only find at a ‘cute hoors’ convention! Half the state is still run from Rome and the other half by a bunch of nepotistic clans who have had their greedy snouts in the trough since independence and are still helping themselves to the loot whilst the zombie voters keep having ground dog days at elections and voting in the same gang of morons in over and over again, it’s like the whole population has gone mad, doing the same thing over and over again and hoping for a different outcome! Corruption is endemic in Irish politicians, casino bankers, quango kings and queens, cowboy developers, the legal system, the catholic church and then there’s the people, just look at the turn out recently in support of the Quinns, we had idiots fawning all over Bertie Ahern at the Olympics and the All Ireland semi finals, these people screwed the country and yet some people see them as some sort of heroes, it’s perverse but that’s Ireland for you, corrupt as hell! Third world in every way, even Mugabe in Zimbabwe must look on envious of the Irish politicians at times as they award themselves massive pensions, salaries and al sorts of tax perks whilst crapping all over what’s left of the working population just look at all the fat cats from the last govt. who are now laughing all the way to banks they helped save at the expense of the people.

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  • Why is this not letting me post my comments?

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  • Wow, it didn’t like the word S******g

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    • Apparently it also didn’t like punctuation, sentence structure or paragraphs.

      I’m sure you had something interesting to say about Irish politicians being corrupt, but this story relates to Cold War political maps.

      Scroll back up and read the full article.

      Now that you have read the entire article, I’m sure you can see how your rage at the current government is not warranted on this article.

      Right. That’s that covered.

      Now for the questions.
      Did you vote at the last General Election?
      Who did you vote for (Optional)?
      Why did you vote for ?
      Did live up to your expectations?
      Will you buy the magic beans I’m selling on adverts.ie?

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